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365-66: kiss me with your mouth

kiss me with your mouth
(sometimes these photos don’t line up here right, you can click it to go the original size at flickr)

Day 66 of 365: a year in songs and photos

Song: Stephen "Tin Tin" Duffy, Kiss Me

Ah, the 80’s. This song pretty much defines the early part of that decade for me.

When the 80’s started I was 17 and getting ready to graduate high school. By the time the 80’s were over I was married and eight months pregnant. The years in between those were some of the best of my life. Years filled with slacking, partying, clubbing, smoking, drinking, video game playing, road tripping, partying, slacking, drinking, slacking….you get the picture. It was the early part of the decade – say from high school graduation until I was about 24 – that formed the bulk of what we will refer to as Those Years.

I went through phases, musically. Angry and depressed (Black Flag’s Damaged), just depressed (anything by Joy Division) just angry (Husker Du, New Day Rising), apathetic (REM, Reckoning), drunk (Judas Priest, Maiden, Dio), stoned (this is where the old Pink Floyd came out) and…….happy. Happy music meant new wave music.

No matter what went on in the 80’s, no matter how much I remember or how much I want to forget or what people insist of reminding me of, the one thing that will flash in my head every time someone says "1980’s" will be new wave music, especially this song. The soundtrack to a very misspent youth, listened to on WLIR FM.

We hung out a club called Spit. Danced the night away, fueled by alcohol and synthesizer beats. I can tell you, from memory, that when at Spit! I was mostly likely wearing a black/cobalt blue miniskirt with some kind of shiny, pleather belt, torn, black stockings, a punk rock band t-shirt, nearly ripped to shreds and spiked up hair and some kind of stomping boots. I didn’t know whether I wanted to be punk or new wave. I just knew that there was something about this music that grabbed me and made me move. It wasn’t all happy music; a lot of it was pretty dark and disturbing. But the general feel of the music, the synthesized melodies, the way it made you bounce your head and your feet….it made me feel good to be alive. Standing in the middle of the club, the ground shaking, the beats pounding, the shots of 151 rum making their way through my system, everyone waving their hands in the air like they just didn’t care – it was a place I wanted to stay for as long as possible. We closed that club down every night it was open. First to come, last to leave. Hundreds of people swarming in and out the whole night (there was usually a long wait to get in), and we never left the floor except to pee and get drinks and maybe harass the DJ into playing that Kiss Me again.

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365-66: kiss me with your mouth

kiss me with your mouth
(sometimes these photos don’t line up here right, you can click it to go the original size at flickr)

Day 66 of 365: a year in songs and photos

Song: Stephen "Tin Tin" Duffy, Kiss Me

Ah, the 80’s. This song pretty much defines the early part of that decade for me.

When the 80’s started I was 17 and getting ready to graduate high school. By the time the 80’s were over I was married and eight months pregnant. The years in between those were some of the best of my life. Years filled with slacking, partying, clubbing, smoking, drinking, video game playing, road tripping, partying, slacking, drinking, slacking….you get the picture. It was the early part of the decade – say from high school graduation until I was about 24 – that formed the bulk of what we will refer to as Those Years.

I went through phases, musically. Angry and depressed (Black Flag’s Damaged), just depressed (anything by Joy Division) just angry (Husker Du, New Day Rising), apathetic (REM, Reckoning), drunk (Judas Priest, Maiden, Dio), stoned (this is where the old Pink Floyd came out) and…….happy. Happy music meant new wave music.

No matter what went on in the 80’s, no matter how much I remember or how much I want to forget or what people insist of reminding me of, the one thing that will flash in my head every time someone says "1980’s" will be new wave music, especially this song. The soundtrack to a very misspent youth, listened to on WLIR FM.

We hung out a club called Spit. Danced the night away, fueled by alcohol and synthesizer beats. I can tell you, from memory, that when at Spit! I was mostly likely wearing a black/cobalt blue miniskirt with some kind of shiny, pleather belt, torn, black stockings, a punk rock band t-shirt, nearly ripped to shreds and spiked up hair and some kind of stomping boots. I didn’t know whether I wanted to be punk or new wave. I just knew that there was something about this music that grabbed me and made me move. It wasn’t all happy music; a lot of it was pretty dark and disturbing. But the general feel of the music, the synthesized melodies, the way it made you bounce your head and your feet….it made me feel good to be alive. Standing in the middle of the club, the ground shaking, the beats pounding, the shots of 151 rum making their way through my system, everyone waving their hands in the air like they just didn’t care – it was a place I wanted to stay for as long as possible. We closed that club down every night it was open. First to come, last to leave. Hundreds of people swarming in and out the whole night (there was usually a long wait to get in), and we never left the floor except to pee and get drinks and maybe harass the DJ into playing that Kiss Me again.

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Through Metafilter, I found this great page at post-punk, which provides links to tons of classic post punk videos.

Looking over the list, I can see I am still confused as to the difference between new wave and post punk. I thought originally that new wave grew out of post-punk and post punk was sort of a precursor to industrial music with punk undertones. But this site lists bands like The Alarm, The Human League and Shrieback, who I always heard as new wave. And then it lists bands like The Damned and Wire, and I think of both as punk.

Seeing U2 and the Jam leads me to scratch my head because they were around so early; shouldn’t post-punk be after punk sort of waned? Unless, of course, the people defining post-punk are those who think that punk lived and died in the late 70’s.

So we go to AllMusic for a defintion:

After the punk revolution of 1977, a number of bands inspired by the d.i.y. spirit and raw sound of punk were formed. However, instead of replicating the sound of the Sex Pistols, many of these bands forged into more experimental territory, taking cues from a range of artists and styles, such as Roxy Music, David Bowie (especially Low, Heroes and Lodger), disco, dub and Krautrock.

The result was Post-Punk, a more adventurous and arty form of punk, no less angry or political but often more musically complex and diverse. Many of these groups — like Joy Division or the Cure — created dark, synthesizer-oriented soundscapes while others– like Orange Juice or XTC — had a lighter guitar-based musical approach but their lyrics and music were off-kilter and often subverted traditional pop/rock song structures. Post-punk eventually developed into alternative pop/rock in the ’80s.

So post punk is post punk beginnings, not post punk in general. Got it?

This is why I hate defining things into genres. I can’t see Nick Cave, The Cure, Lydia Lunch and Front 242 all being lumped into the same genre.

If one wants to be really anal about genres and sub-genres, there are all sorts of labels you could come up with for the punk/post-punk/new wave scene. Some artists can fall into all categories, while some only fit in one.

For instance, you could take a timeline and plot the following bands: Television, New York Dolls, Elvis Costello, Husker Du, XTC, Human League, Duran Duran, OMD, Love and Rockets, Depeche Mode, Orange Juice, Joy Division, Killing Joke, Split Enz, Culture Club, The Jam, Madness and Squeeze. There is no way you could define them all using the three specific labels previously mentioned. The only thing they have in common is that they all sprung from the same movement.

If this were a visual chart that started after the so-called punk revolution (again, that point figured primarily by people who, in their minds, are still living in 1977), there would be branches leading off in every direction, with little notations stating things like dark new wave, gothic punk, pop punk, mainstream new wave, synth pop, ska-punk, and breaking off the punk further into NY Hardcore and DC and California genres, etc. And then you could go from there and make a case for new wave leading to techno leading to industrial and so on and so on.

The bottom line here is that music and all its genres are not only incestuous, they are pretty arbitrary as well. One person’s punk is another person’s pop (see, Blink 182), while one person’s new wave is another person’s radio-driven pop (see, Culture Club).

Does any of this really matter in the long run? Is it going to make or break my life if The Damned are forever labeled as punk or post punk? No. I’m still going to enjoy the hell out of them. All three of the mentioned genres – new wave, punk and post punk – played such a huge role in my defining years (let’s call them 16 until, oh, NOW [punk rockers never grow up]) that if I had to listen to one genre for the rest of my life, I’d beg the genre gods to let me swoop those three up and call them one entity. I’d gladly give up my love for speed metal in that exchange.

My idea just now was to make a definitive, perfect playlist of new wave/punk/post punk to take to the proverbial desert island with me, but, my god, that would be HUGE. I’d have to include about a thousand new wave songs that I danced to in dingy clubs on Long Island (Q-Feel, The Motors, Haircut 100…) and all post punk songs I listened to in the dark of my bedroom while contemplating a career as a suicidal poet (Joy Division, The Stranglers, Bauhaus….) and then go back and grab all the Black Flag and the punk from that era (Circle Jerks, The Germs…)and all the other punk (MDC, Minor Threat, Angry Samoans, H20….) and everything else crammed into these genres (Nick Cave, The Pixies, Front 242, Sparks….) making a playlist like that would eat up my entire iPod and then some. But damn, would I be happy forever.

I wanted to pick one video out of the above linked list to put here and was having a hard time deciding when I clicked on this one this flood of awesome memories from the greatest radio station that ever existed came back.

Enjoy.

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monday + headache = lists

Monday. Rainy, humid, dark, pounding headache. So, the usual. Meh. And you know what that means. You get lists.

Movies I Pretty Much Loathe, That Most People Like

Forrest Gump
Castaway
Mullholand Drive
The Royal Tenembaums
Ghost World
Signs
Lost in Translation

Movies I Love That I Should Be Ashamed of Loving

Mean Girls
Armageddon
Bring it On
Princess Diaries
Tromeo and Juliet
kkfo9.jpgKiller Klowns From Outer Space
Troll


Awesome Movies About Mutant Insects/Animals

Food of the Gods
Night of the Lepus
Squirm
Empire of the Ants
Parasite in 3-D (with Demi Moore!)
Aracnophobia
Them!
Starship Troopers
Tremors
The Swarm
The Birds
Willard (the original)

Awesome Post-Apocalyptic Movies

Mad Max
Escape from New York
12 Monkeys
Road Warrior
Six String Samurai
Logan’s Run
Dawn of the Dead
Akira
City of Lost Children
Soylent Green
Red Dawn
Death Race 2000
A Boy and His Dog
Night of the Comet
Fist of the North Star
Planet of the Apes


Most Underrated Movie Bad Guys

Pyatt (Richard Bradford) in Legend of Billie Jean
Jean-Baptiste Emanuel Zorg (Gary Oldman) in Fifth Element
Jafar (Jonathan Freeman) in Aladdin
Megatron (Frank Welker) in Transformers, The Movie
Stay-Puft Marshmellow Man (himself) in Ghostbusters
Biff (Thomas F. Wilson) in Back to the Future
Coach Roy Turner (Vic Morrow) in Bad News Bears
Johnny Lawrence (William Zabka) in Karate Kid
David Lo Pan (James Hong) in Big Trouble in Little China

Awesome Disaster Movies From the 70’s

Airport
Poseidon Adventure
Earthquake!
Towering Inferno
Airport ’75
Airport ’77
Rollercoaster
Swarm
China Syndrome
Meteor
Airport ’79

Favorite Sega Genesis games:

Sonic the Hedgehog
Sonic and Knuckles (playing as Knuckles)
Tiny Toons
Aladdin
Toejam and Earl
Earthworm Jim
Mutant League Hockey
Doctor Robotnik’s Mean Bean Machine
Road Rash
Castlevania Bloodlines
EA NHL Series

Songs That I Loved When I Used To Wear Pleather Miniskirts and Ripped Stockings

Depeche Mode – Just Can’t Get Enough
Flock Of Seagulls – Telecommunication
Flash & The Pan – Hey, St. Peter
Jam – Start!
Motors – Love and Lonliness
Plimsouls – A Million Miles Away
Squeeze – Up The Junction
Naked Eyes – Always Something There to Remind Me
The Cure – Why Can’t I Be You
Haircut 100 – Favourite Shirt
Reflex – Politics of Dancing
Heaven 17 – Let Me Go
Jona Lewie- (You’ll Always Find Me In The) Kitchen At Parties
Peter Godwin – Images of Heaven
Pete Shelley – Homosapien
Q-Feel – Dancing in Heaven
Polecats – Make A Circuit With Me
Tim Scott – Swear
Plastic Bertrand – Ca Plane Pour Moi
Blancmange – Living on the Ceiling
APB – One Day
Shriekback – Nemesis
Ministry – I Wanted to Tell Her

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